  Logic Wins Again
Mike
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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It's nice of all these hundreds upon hundreds of windows exploits are finally surfacing.
The question is, how many people were farked because of it?
It's like KDE having over 10,000 bug fixes / tweaks / optimizations to the GUI. How many people really noticed all of them?
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Of course, they're entitled to be blithering idiots at the same time.
What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon.
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GNXPower
Joined 12-18-2003
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Verizon west (ex G.. | Re: logic?
I agree, it's one of those if a tree falls in the woods kinda things.
There is a big difference between an exploit and an exploited exploit.
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Don't have it?!? Demand it!!! The Anime Network »www.theanimenetwork.com | | » | 2004-02-10 18:13:42 | · |
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exocet_cm
 
Joined 03-23-2003
Location: Slidell, LA
Charter Pipeline | Holy Panties Batman!!!
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company's XP/NT/2000 operating
If your not running one of those OS's, then your good to go. Otherwise, your screwed.
Although I do wish you the best of luck! 
Cheerio!
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your sin will kill you. - Thomas Watson Harmless as doves 131 | | » | 2004-02-10 17:40:16 | · Print · |
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enOehT
(Premium)
Joined 05-17-2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
RoadRunner | Ohh man! I'm SOOOO Screwed!
When
my boss finds out about this I am going to lose my job! Please help me
patch this thing up before all the worms and trojans come running in!
SOS!
This ship is going down nose first!
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Location: Logwind
| Re: Ohh man! I'm SOOOO Screwed!
I think he's being sarcastic guys. Jesus. Everyone knows it's cool to hate MS. Get with the program. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:00:53 | · |
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WedgeAntilles250
MVM
Joined 05-24-2000
Location: Cleveland, OH
EarthLink | Re: Ohh man! I'm SOOOO Screwed!
Fool around with this exploit? YEAH RIGHT! I don't think that we should be kidding around with this.
I for sure am going to be making a few CDs up tonight with SP1 and this patch on it to give to a few n00bs I know.
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Location: Logwind
| Re: Ohh man! I'm SOOOO Screwed!
That went so far over your head, it was hijacked and flown into a major landmark. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:14:29 | · |
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Location: Ingersoll, ON
| Re: Ohh man! I'm SOOOO Screwed!
His
first post sounds like a legitimate post because the same thing really
DID happen to me. But I just downloaded it from MS's website instead. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:22:14 | · |
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enOehT
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Joined 05-17-2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
RoadRunner | 2 legit, 2legit 2 quit!
The part about it not being available on Windows update is totally legit! I downloaded it from the link provided by you here: »www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/def..
Thanks for the link! 
As for the losing my job, that was to add to the drama.  But you did provide me what I was looking for.
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Location: Alexandria, VA
Verizon Online DSL
| Check your install history on Windows Update. If KB828028 shows up, then you're fine. | | » | 2004-02-10 17:47:25 | · |
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Joined 06-25-2001
Location: Herndon, VA
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would worry about that Eno Eht. This is just another classic example of
Microsoft's laziness and ineptness in fixing there products. Product
deadline (it certainly is NOT quality) seems to be there main concern.
I'm "preaching to the choir" about the rest. Nuff said.
Lars | | » | 2004-02-10 18:18:02 | · |
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Location: Ingersoll, ON
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It was on there on some PCs I patched, but not others. | | » | 2004-02-10 17:50:13 | · |
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JollyStomper
(Premium)
Joined 03-16-2003
Location: Pompano Beach, FL | Strange...
I got the updates from WU a couple of hours before this article even broke out.
I
heard about the exploit while watching Fox News (Neil Cavuto) and
immediately checked Windows Update. Sure enough, they were there.
Updated my XpPro boxen and my W2K server box (That had two).
cheers...
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Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
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I'm still not seeing it on WU. Perhaps they found a major glitch in the patch. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:28:01 | · |
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Location: Ingersoll, ON
| Download from here.
It didn't show up on my home PC running XP Pro, but 2 work PCs it showed up. | | » | 2004-02-10 17:49:13 | · |
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enOehT
(Premium)
Joined 05-17-2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
RoadRunner | TOO Late! :-(
Too
late! I wasn't quick enough. :-( All the data is gone, all infected.
Why would they announce it and then not provide the patch right away?
Where is that extra pair of under ware, I know I put them around here somewhere?
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exocet_cm
Joined 03-23-2003
Location: Slidell, LA
Charter Pipeline | Screw it...
I
don't care anymore. Once I get infected I'll format my HD and install
windows 3.1. You never hear of many security problems with windwos 3.1.
I'll just die away in peace...
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disease, feeds an enemy. Some diseases are starved. Starve your sins by
fasting and humiliation. Either kill your sin, or your sin will kill
you. - Thomas Watson Harmless as doves 131 | | » | 2004-02-10 17:38:41 | · |
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Location: MD
Millennium Digital..
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why not linux if your going to go with an incompatible os. | | » | 2004-02-10 17:43:50 | · |
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Iceman4u2
Location: Rochester, NY
| That is just what we expect from $soft!!!
It
is one thing to work towards a fix, but it's another thing to leave the
exploit open and do nothing. This is along the line of the URL in the
browser being able to be changed | | » | 2004-02-10 17:39:27 | · |
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TuxNT
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Location: Chicago, IL
Ameritech - SBC | i guess
my idea of staying one os behind microsoft apparently isnt going to cut it | | » | 2004-02-10 17:44:35 | · |
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DSL4Brains
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Joined 08-26-2003
Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
| Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
...they
want to sell me? I can't deal with this pain anymore. I'm going to call
my attorney and start a law suit against Micro$oft for emotional
duress. I'm losing weight, I'm drinking heavily and...and...and I
kicked my POOR DAMN DOG TODAY over this.
I've gone over the edge emotionally. I'm completly mental. | | » | 2004-02-10 17:49:48 | · |
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News guy
Location: Error
RoadRunner
| Re: Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
Attachments:
I just switched back to the Apple 2gs. I have an extra one if you want.
PRODOS is where it's at! | | » | 2004-02-10 17:54:03 | · |
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(P)
Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
How about a TRS80? Got one of those babies? LOL! | | » | 2004-02-10 18:00:11 | · |
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ZoboFlobby
(P)
Location: Omaha, NE
Cox HSI | Do you have Zany golf?
Is it the WOZ Edition with a Sound Blaster?
Oh I would love one! | | » | 2004-02-10 18:02:35 | · |
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News guy
Joined 03-02-2000
Location: Error
RoadRunner
Host of:
PC gaming GAMES, Broadband Politics and Legislation, Road Runner,
| Re: Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
In
reality I do have it still packed up with a mountain of err....less
than legit software someplace....(did I say that out loud)
I can still hear the BBS members taunting me for the lack of color ANSI. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:10:33 | · |
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(Premium)
Joined 08-26-2003
Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
said by Karl  :
In
reality I do have it still packed up with a mountain of err....less
than legit software someplace....(did I say that out loud)
I can still hear the BBS members taunting me for the lack of color ANSI.
Ahhh...remember Cracker Jack? Me and my buddy would sit around and trade software, without actually trading
software. We giggled like teenaged girls. That must've been the actual
beginnings of software piracy. Of course those days are over and I'd
never do that now. Remember the Commodore 1541 5-1/4" 180k disk drives?
I pulled a small cooling fan out of an old Wang and duct taped it to
the top of it so it'd blow through the vents to keep the drive from
overheating. Yes, those were the days. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:19:10 | · Print · |
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Oh,
man, here come the memories.... I have four CPUs and about six 1541s, 2
1581s.... I lived about 100 miles north of where you could walk in and
buy Cracker Jax! | | » | 2004-02-10 18:28:58 | |
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(Premium)
Joined 08-26-2003
Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Does anybody out there have a Commodore 64
said by RapidLok:
Oh,
man, here come the memories.... I have four CPUs and about six 1541s, 2
1581s.... I lived about 100 miles north of where you could walk in and
buy Cracker Jax!
I think we bought our copy of it right out of a Commodore magazine.
Do
you remember 'notching' the 180k disks so as to get 360k out of them? I
used a steak knife to do it until somebody marketed a disk notcher.
Technology at its finest. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:35:55 | · |
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Joined 08-26-2003
Location: Portland, OR
Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Download patch here
How
do I know that link isn't some weird re-direct or something? I'm afraid
that when I do my Windows update, I may not really be at Microsoft, but
at some strange Austrian web site owned by some 16 year-old kid who'll
plant strange stuff on my PC.
FWIW, how do I know this is really Broadband Reports? I could be hijacked right now!
Where's my Zoloft? | | » | 2004-02-10 17:59:07 | · |
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Lophophora
Joined 06-11-2001
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
DSL EXTREME.COM | I run a different OS I'm safe - give me a break.
Yeah
if that 'other' OS you were running comprised of ~95%+ of the world
market there would be just as many exploits. I'm just tired of reading
the constant MS bashing. If you have a problem with them, and haven't
already, switch your OS for "crying out loud". | | » | 2004-02-10 17:49:53 | · |
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ryri
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Location: Berkeley, CA
DSL EXTREME.COM | Re: I run a different OS I'm safe - give me a brea
Agreed for those who have the option.
What about those who don't have control over their machines? All they have left is the complaining.
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The more you know the more you know how little you know,you know? | | » | 2004-02-10 18:00:07 | · |
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Hangmn
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Covad | Re: I run a different OS I'm safe - give me a brea
UM if they have no choice, then I guess its not their problem then is it? | | » | 2004-02-10 18:22:27 | · |
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jhboricua
Joined 06-06-2000
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Onvoy
edit: Tuesday February 10th, @06:04PM
| Re: I run a different OS I'm safe - give me a break.
said by Lophophora :
Yeah
if that 'other' OS you were running comprised of ~95%+ of the world
market there would be just as many exploits. I'm just tired of reading
the constant MS bashing. If you have a problem with them, and haven't
already, switch your OS for "crying out loud".
Hmm, a
bit too sensitive today? Kindly point were in the previous posts to
yours is something like what you're complaining about stated? I'm just
as tired of reading the apologists, but is worse when they cry foul for
no reason.
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Mike
Forum Mod
Joined 09-17-2000
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Stargate
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Campus Broadband Chat, Site Tools, DirecTV DSL, DSLi, | Not all OSes are programmed alike.
I'm
personally tired of hearing *that* argument. I understand how you can
formulate it. From the CS side, windows is different from unix.
Different structure ENTIRELY.
It's been tied, beaten, and smacked around a long time ago.
»www.baltimoresun.com/technology/custom..
»www.businessweek.com/technology/conten..
Read those, what do you think?
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Of course, they're entitled to be blithering idiots at the same time.
What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon.
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Joined 09-13-2002
Location: Oaklyn, NJ
Comcast
| Yea,
true. Microsoft has 95% of the home users running their OS so sure they
are gonna be the most attacked by hackers. Make sense? Its also not
easy to program this software (OS) to be compatible with all the
different hardware thats out there. Apply on the other hand can program
their OS just to there hardware since Apples come with Apple hardware.
That simplifies it a great deal.
Microsoft Isnt perfect but
its no easy task. Give them some credit where credits due. Realeasing a
patch is a process that takes a ton of testing, cause you dont want to
ruin 25 million PCs with a faulty patch. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:02:55 | · Print · |
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Location: Ingersoll, ON
| That's
a bad excuse. Apache runs most websites, and some form of Unix/Linux
for most email servers but you don't see many security flaws for those. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:08:57 | · |
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Logwind
Location: Logwind
| Patched.
Thanks
for the heads up. As for the IE phishing patch, I'll roam without it as
I like my browser to recognize the "@" symbol in URLs. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:02:39 | · |
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cobrakon
(Premium)
Joined 09-21-2002
Location: Hialeah, FL
EarthLink | Re: Patched.
"And it's a solid hit! A long drive to the left wall...Here comes Win2K rounding second...he's out! Here come's WinXP past 3rd...he's out! 98SE is trying for home plate...going...going...and....he's SAFE! Win98SE is SAFE!!
lol
Seriously
though, I've been lovin my perfectly stable 98SE for some years now. I
suppose my work PC is fooked though. I might get on XP by SP3-4...
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"Heh, your broadband style is good grasshopper....but not good enough. Watch my Bellsouth style..."
1180K download 218K upload (BS FastAccess 1.5M/256K @ 19,000ft!) | | » | 2004-02-10 18:20:35 | · Print · |
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idonotexist
Joined 01-25-2001
Location: Oakwood, GA
BellSouth | hi i am a l33t linux g33k
half the people that whine don't even know what they are whining about.
you
all got your dell computers preinstalled with xp and all you can do now
is whine. seriously, stop it. bugs are there and will be. the ones that
are patched have been found. so if something has been there since the
release of a program 2 years ago but never found by those who do that
for a living, chance is that well... you are pretty safe. | | » | 2004-02-10 18:05:53 | · |
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kv5e
(P)
Location: Mesquite, TX
Comcast | Laissez Faire?
M$ believes in $inning first and a$king for forgiveness later. Unbelievable to know this exploit and sit on it for six months.
There should be a fine for this exposure, but we all know the gov's track record with the Monolith $tentorian! | | » | 2004-02-10 18:11:44 | · |
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Joined 05-22-2003
Location: Lynnwood, WA
|  ...may bypass firewall
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i thought i was fairly safe behind nat router and NIS and (most of all)
"safe computing". looks like i'm going to have to build a linux box
firewall to put in front of the router ---this site has made me a believer --amen! | | » | 2004-02-10 18:27:26 | · |
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